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Depuis au moins 15 jours, j'ai déjà réussi à différencier la sangle et le manche.Bassiste ?

Effectivement Pierre
Depuis au moins 15 jours, j'ai déjà réussi à différencier la sangle et le manche.Bassiste ?
Tu m'étonnes !chok a écrit :Soukouss, je pense qu'Orou (Ascent) dirait que tu as tout pour être heureux
ben il y a Bill Laswell... il doit pas être un cas isolé!Cela dit, je ne me rappelle pas avoir vu de bassiste de dub jouer fretless.
Je n'ai (malheureusement) jamais eu l'occasion de comparer des Minis avec les oscillateurs RA MOOG, 3046 et ua726, mais je suis tombé sur un article intéressant que je soumets à la réflexion des spécialistes :soukouss a écrit :le mini est un old oscillo board, of course ! entre connaisseurs on se comprend !
There is much debate over which oscillator card sounds better. Few people realize that the oscillator card is not the main contributor to differences in sound - the filter is.
I became aware of this on my first visit to a NAMM show. I was invited to this NAMM show to help set up a display on many wonderful vintage keyboards, including the first three minimoog prototypes and production unit numero uno. The minimoogs were wired up and making noise. The numero uno unit is very similar to my unit except this one had the original discrete oscillator board. It sounded very similar to mine. Another colleague had a later minimoog set up at the Big Briar booth with the same oscillator card as mine. I was shocked at how different it sounded.
To paraphrase Sherlock Holmes, the game is afoot! Why did two early minimoogs with different oscillator cards sound identical while a later unit with same oscillator card sounded radically different? Later Roger Luther acquired an early minimoog of his own and THIS one had the third oscillator card - the UA726 version. THAT minimoog sounded like my unit too! Therefore I have played three RA Moog Minimoogs each with different oscillator cards, and they sounded EXACTLY the same.
I found minimoog schematics from the RA Moog days. My suspicion zeroed in on the filter schematics. The filter is a configuration of five transistor pairs. A little sidenote specified that all the pairs had to be matched. When I referred to the newer service manual, the sidenote revealed that only the top and bottom pairs were to be matched. Here was the secret! Since the middle pairs did not have matched transistors this impacted the sonority of the filter in that the poles (formed by the RC product comprised by the transistors and filter caps) are no longer equidistant. Therein lies the answer - later minimoog filters did NOT have 100% matched transistor pairs and thus this contributed to sonic differences from one unit to another. Because the early minimoogs (RA Moog and some early "Moog-MuSonics") had 100% matched transistor pairs in the filter, the sonic quality was identical from one unit to another.
Ça existe ça les contrebasses fretées ?? Connais pô moiBLT a écrit :
Re HS :
Je n'ai plus que 3 basses dont une fretless (deux Precision et une Cort B4FL), une contrebasse et une contrebasse électrique (NS Design), fretless toutes les deux aussi bien entendu.
bah, le dub c'est vaste, entre un Mad Professor ou Aswad (a new chapter of dub, et seulement celui-ci!) et Scorn, Sand ou Dub Trio, il y a un monde...BLT a écrit :Ce n'est pas exactement à Bill Laswell que je pense en parlant de bassiste de dub...
santé mon amichok a écrit :Soukouss, je pense qu'Orou (Ascent) dirait que tu as tout pour être heureux
+1soukouss a écrit :@Georges
Merci pour l'article. Tres interessant. La these de l'article, si j'ai bien compris, c'est que ça ne serait en fait pas le type d' oscillo board ( old ou new ) qui crée la différence sonore, mais le filtre lui-meme ( selon la manière dont les 5 transistors sont matché ). Je poserai la question au Druide de mon village quand je le verrai. Je blague pas !!! ...