Moi aussi et c'est bien pourquoi je trouve le prix très excessif...Et pour répondre à Cernu : je suis d'accord avec toi
Salut MékaMéka a écrit :Je l'achète si je gagne le gros lot demain soir au super-loto !
D'ailleurs, j'investirais bien dans du Moon Modular aussiAujourd'hui pour qui veut se faire plaisir il y a MOS-LAB.
Non le modèle en question dans cette enchère est équipé de 921A/B bien plus stable que les 901A/Boryjen a écrit :Le IIIP, c'est bien le même que le IIIC, en version "transportable", avec les oscillateurs 901/902 qui tiennent pas l'accord plus de 5mn et c'est normal non non c'est pas une panne?
Mais par contre, de ce que j'entend systematiquement, les vco 901 ne seraient pas si mauvais à l'accordage et surtout ils sont ceux qui seraient les plus "légendaires" de par le son, en tout cas il y a pas mal de puristes qui ne jurent que par eux, même STG par exemple.Non le modèle en question dans cette enchère est équipé de 921A/B bien plus stable que les 901A/B
But there is some confusion as to what exactly a Moog modular is. The ones with the 901 oscillators and the CP3 mixer, really differ tonally from the latter ones with 921 oscillators and the CP3A mixer with the 1458 op-amp. (Just look at the schematics). Anything done before 1972 should have the old 901/CP3 setup. (Tomita used the 921's?, while SOB, ELP was the 901's)
I have one of the old ones, and it does have a unique tone. Many little variables attribute to the tone. There is quite a bit of distortion possible in the old CP3 mixers, and like the Minimoog, setting the mixer dial to 10 is actually 2 times the input. A setting of about 7 is unity gain. The 901 waveforms are all different volumes, with the square being the loudest. So placing several squares into the CP3 gets a nasty distortion. But somewhere in there is a magic ballance with just a bit of distortion depending on the number of oscillators and selected waveforms. (The sweet spot) The 904A shapes this tone further and even a nice square wave through the 904A fully open changes the top of the square to a slight slope.
Another unique tone is attained through the fixed filter bank. (Even my Minimoog sounds more modular patched through this). I have the 907, and I don't believe anyone is making a clone with the same torridial wound coils. (Mike Bucci still makes 907/914 FFB's.) Something just happens to the sound when it travels over so many miles of wire. Difficult to reproduce, without using the same parts.
But if I had to pick one unique quality that stands out, it would be the bass. It is almost too much, and I can honestly say this is the only synthesizer I ever owned, that I had to turn down the bass on some patches.
So......., I have some samples of the crazy distortion in the CP3, and raw single and mixed waveforms from the 901's both before and after the 904A and 902 VCA here:
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze6s1hi/moog1p/id2.html
There is also a page with similar samples of a Minimoog oscillator (Second version common oscillator board) both before and after the filter/VCA. Interesting that the modular oscillator tone gets duller through the 904A, while the Mini oscillators seem to get more dirt and are brighter after the filter. The Mini I used adds a bit of noise in the filter section.
Anyhow, anyone interested can look at the various waveforms/tones along the standard VCO/VCF/VCA signal path. Fun stuff!